Paper presented at

I’m having problems with conference papers using the Chicago author-date style. This is what my journal wants:

Gilmore, Donald. 1989. “What Does Hermeneutics Really Mean in Art?” Paper presented at the annual meeting of the College Art Association, Boston, February 13.

Looking on the Zotero forums I found that I would get closer to this if I chose “presentation” rather than “conference paper” as the item type. (Conference papers are treated more like book chapters and seem intended for published conference proceedings.) However, what I get is this:

Gilmore, Donald. 1989. “What Does Hermeneutics Really Mean in Art?”. presented at the annual meeting of the College Art Association, Boston, February 13.

I don’t know how to modify the style to include the word “Paper” before “presented.”

I tried modifying this section of the CLS:

    <group>
      <text term="presented at" suffix=" "/>
      <text variable="event"/>
    </group>
  </macro>

to look like this:

    <group>
      <text term="Paper presented at" suffix=" "/>
      <text variable="event"/>
    </group>
  </macro>

But that just stopped the whole thing from working, I ended up with neither word (Paper or presented) before the paper title. Any suggestions?

This doesn’t work either (Copied from another CLS)

  <macro name="event">
<choose>
  <if variable="event">
<choose>
  <if variable="genre" match="none">
    <text term="Paper presented at" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix=" "/>
    <text variable="event"/>
  </if>
  <else>
    <group delimiter=" ">
      <text variable="genre" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
      <text term="presented at"/>
      <text variable="event"/>
    </group>
  </else>
</choose>
  </if>
</choose>

That’s weird. If “presented at” is the only occurence of this term in the file and you change it I cannot think of a scenario where this would not work.

Unfortunately I can’t be of much help as CSL is not my area of expertise. If anyone reading this with more insights please help Kerim!

There are multiple things here that make it not work as expected. Choosing “presentation” is the right thing to do. You only need to put “the annual meeting of the College Art Association, Boston” in the field “Conference”, which you can get via “Additional fields”.

Next, you need to edit your CSL file. The line you originally had in the CSL is prefectly okay.
<text term="presented at" suffix=" "/>

What you need to do is find in your CSL file the section <terms>. There you need to introduce this line:
<term name="presented at">Paper presented at</term>
presented at” is just a variable name. With this line you now tell it what it should actually put there.

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Thanks. I’ll give this a try after a rest. I ended up hand-editing some of the more wonky aspects of the bibliography so I could get it out in time… I don’t think I can look at another citation for a while! :disappointed_relieved: