Paperpile for Firefox

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#1

are working for paperpile firefox addon?


#2

Probably not a priority - however, I just realized that unlike chrome, firefox offers addons on mobile devices (android at least). I assume that’s still a long shot, but seems like this would help with mobile integration if the chrome app is portable to firefox.


#3

Actually Firefox will change their extension system considerably and make it compatible with Chrome. There is a big uproar in the community because many extensions won’t work anymore. It’s not an easy time for Firefox.

We’ve probably have another look at Firefox in a year or so and see were this goes. At the moment it’s not a platform we can invest resources in. These resources are better spent in a dedicated Android app (and that’s what we are doing).


#4

Chrome has severe performance issues on Mac, very unfortunately. I am basically forced to switch to Firefox. Would be great to have it supported, but I understand resources are scarce…

I really want to use Chrome, but it’s been very very hard lately, especially on El Capitan.


#5

Could be a good idea to have a FF extension. I have a technical issue with Chrome (my uni proxy doesn’t work with Chrome, whereas it works with FF). In such a case, it would be useful to switch between browsers without breaking the cloud workflow…
Anyway, thanks for Paperpile which is a great tool.


#6

Firefox 57 is now out with Project Quantum and lots of improvements. I assume, that this should be now the time where you could have a look at supporting it now too. I know quite a bunch of people who switched back to Firefox now :wink:


#7

Just wanted to add that I have also made the “leap” to Firefox Quantum, and would love to have a paperpile extension for firefox made available :smile:


#8

I did try to use Chrome Store Foxified at Firefox to package Paperpile into Firefox 57, but the jason file looks so big that cannot be packed.


#9

Another voice from someone who has recently moved to Firefox Quantum who would love to see PaperPile support it.


#10

Me, too, I would love to use Paperpile on Firefox!


#11

Here’s an update on Firefox support:

When we started (around 2013) it was pretty clear that we did not want to create a Firefox extension based on XUL (which is now obsolete) That was the right decision as we would have wasted important resources early on for technology without a future.

During the following years the situation and future of Firefox was unclear. Although from a technological point of view things are more stable now the situation is still unclear. The product is good, there is lots of marketing hype and hope.

But it does not change the fact that still more Safari users would like to use Paperpile than Firefox users. It also does not change the fact that Paperpile is a complex App which can’t simply “re-packaged” for another browser. It’s not just that Paperpile uses Extension APIs that are not available on Firefox it’s also that we use HTML5 features that differ completely between the browsers.

So we will not be able to port the existing extension to Firefox. Instead we will develop Paperpile in a direction that will make it possible in the future to use Paperpile with other browser. That’s our long term goal.

Our short term goal is to make Paperpile available on every operation system: Via Chrome on Mac, Windows, Linux and native on iOS and Android. That’s very realistic, while having Paperpile on every operating system AND every browser is not our goal at the moment.


Paperpile for Firefox Quantum
#12

I understand your resource is quite limited and unable to provide a support for Firefox.
Your reply reminds me of a question raised by a Paperpile support. He/she asked me how I can use Paperpile in Opera browser! That’s quite funny—you guys may focus too much on Chrome browser, and even unaware of the compatibility of Paperpile in other browsers!
If you take a time to look at other browsers, such as Opera or Vivaldi, you will find zero minutes you need to optimize Paperpile for these browsers.
Firefox should stand at the similar situation–if you are willing to review the development of Firefox browser, many Chrome-based extensions can be used in Firefox without any major revisions.
It just need your patience to listen to us. It may just need one-cup coffee time for addressing this concern.
Thanks.


#13

Paperpile uses at least one fundamental API that only works on Chrome that makes it incompatible with Safari and Firefox. I’m afraid it’s impossible to judge how much time and resources it would take to support other platforms without knowing how Paperpile works. Even if after Opera switched to Blink things may “sort-of-work” it’s a long way to support Opera officially, which we have not planned at the moment.

Actually I think we are very well aware what’s going on. So I’m not sure why you think it’s appropriate to imply we are not willing to listen to our customers and are ignorant when it comes to web-technologies?


#14

It makes sense that you may not have the resources to fully support Paperpile as a plugin for Firefox. However, would it be feasible to enable support for accessing the web app without the plugin? I realize that adding new papers won’t be as convenient but at least we can see our libraries, grab citations, etc.